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#もの書き 2018-10-07

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2018/10/07 00:00:00
00:00:02 <SiIdeKei> いろいろ考えは尽きない。
00:00:38 <NM> あくまでも消費税を納めるのは店舗側なので
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00:01:36 <NM> 取り引き後の客の行為によって税率が変化したりはしない
00:01:54 <yamano> 法律上の「外食」の定義にあたるかどうかで判断するのだけど
00:02:15 <yamano> そのあたりの説明が伝わっていないので、誤解はされやすい
00:02:27 <SiIdeKei> 近所のコンビニとか、せっかくリニューアルでイートインコーナー作ったばかりなのに
00:02:59 <SiIdeKei> どうなっちゃうんだろうな……飲食禁止の、ただのケータイ充電コーナーになっちゃうのかな……
00:03:31 <SiIdeKei> Σはっ
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00:04:12 <SiIdeKei> 『お持ち込みの食品のみお召し上がりになれます。当店でお買い上げの商品の飲食はお断り申し上げます』
00:04:30 <SiIdeKei> なんてトンチキな張り紙を！（おちつけ
00:05:05 <yamano> 提供の方法自体は
00:05:15 <yamano> スムーズに移行するんじゃないかな
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00:07:07 <SiIdeKei> まあ、しばらく様子見だな。
00:07:52 <yamano> 結局消費税って間接税なので
00:07:54 <SiIdeKei> 小売業界や外食産業も、無策でこのまま行くとは思えんので
00:08:07 <yamano> 事業者が8％で売っても10％で売っても
00:08:10 <SiIdeKei> 何かしら対策を打ってくるだろう。
00:08:22 <yamano> 預かった税金を国に納税しないといけないので
00:08:44 <yamano> そこで損得って出ないんですよね（原則では
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00:10:27 <SiIdeKei> 客数と客単価が変わらないのであれば、税率が何パーセントだろうと、関係ない。
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00:10:58 <yamano> そのため、極力形式的かつ簡易的に判断できるようにして行くことになるでしょうね
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00:12:58 <SiIdeKei> なんか、駅蕎麦の話をしたら、蕎麦が食いたくなってきた……
00:13:26 <Yaduka> まず蕎麦を育てる畑から見繕いましょう
00:14:15 <SiIdeKei> 『そばつゆはどうすんの？やっぱり作る？』
00:14:27 <SiIdeKei> 『作るってどこから？』
00:14:53 <SiIdeKei> 『出汁と醤油は作りたいよね』
00:15:01 <yamano> ラーメンで見た。
00:15:06 <SiIdeKei> って、鉄腕DASHじゃねえか！
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00:19:07 <Yaduka> わさびも育てましょう
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00:23:58 <chita> 「鉄腕DASHじゃねえか」「おう、かえしが旨くなったな」
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00:53:51 <aba[AWAY]> だいいちわおわり
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01:16:07 <Marcy> グリッドマンのデザインはコミックのULTRAMAN寄りだなー
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01:25:07 <Marcy> なかなかよかった
01:25:36 <Marcy> 巨大感も重量感もあったし、アングルも流石わかってるなーって感じ
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01:30:43 <Marcy> 冒頭からなんか変なの登場
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02:04:00 <Marcy> 1レベルの冒険者が4人で装備を整えずにゴブリン退治は普通に死ねるよなぁ（TRPG脳
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14:58:12 <seiryuu> おはよ
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15:12:42 <seiryuu> https://www.4gamer.net/games/436/G043667/20181001002/
15:12:43 (Toybox) FetchTitle: 「ゴブリンスレイヤー」原作者・蝸牛くも氏×グループSNE代表・安田 均氏対談。オールドスクールRPGの新たな潮流 - 4Gamer.net
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15:54:02 <Marcy> 同年代か一回り下くらいまでかなぁと思ってたんで、まだ20代ぎりぎりってのは正直びっくりした
15:54:21 <Marcy> 対談の内容読んで納得はしたけど
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16:27:36 <Yaduka> ゴブスレ1話見たけど、良い物でござった。
16:27:46 <Yaduka> 和マンチは良いね
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16:28:43 <Marcy> 1話のあれは、駆け出し冒険者一党が舐めプに過ぎたのが敗因よね
16:29:26 <Marcy> 防具も揃えず、必要な装備も買わず、周囲の警戒も怠ってるようだと
16:30:18 <Marcy> 1レベルの冒険者なんて最大でHP11しかないんだから、1ｄ6で殴ってくるゴブリンの群れ相手に生き残れるわけが無い（箱D&D脳
16:30:38 <Yaduka> まあのう。
16:31:01 <Yaduka> ポーションも亡いって酷すぎるわ
16:31:27 <Yaduka> SSSS.GRIDMANも視聴中
16:31:46 <Marcy> グリッドマンもなかなか出来がよろしかった
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17:04:21 <Yaduka> SSSS.GRIDMAN1話見終わり。
17:04:26 <Yaduka> 良い1話だった。
17:05:05 <Marcy> 下から見上げるアングルが多用されてる辺り、分かってるな！って感じ
17:05:12 <kira_> ずいぶんとまた、大胆な場面構成してたね。
17:05:28 <Marcy> 巨大感や重量感があって実によい
17:05:37 <Yaduka> 怪獣もの特撮ドラマを上手く落とし込んでますよな
17:06:07 <Marcy> 円谷が噛んでるだけのことはあるよね
17:07:08 <Marcy> エヴァも特撮の技法を上手く取り入れてたけど、それとは違う方向性で成功してる感じ
17:08:11 <kira_> まだ1話だから、わからんけれどね。
17:08:25 <Marcy> まあ掴みはOKってとこやね
17:09:05 <kira_> 円谷だからおかしな構成はほぼないだろうけれど、円谷だって全ての作品を成功させてきたわけではないから、思ったほど受けない可能性だってあるし。
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17:09:38 <kira_> 一話は確かに期待できそうな展開してたねぇ。
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17:11:22 <kira_> あの安定感は、やはり経験なのかね。
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17:12:38 <Yaduka> 2話が楽しみだわん
17:13:00 <syo> 信頼と実績の円谷クオリティでしたな
17:13:13 <kira_> うん。
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18:12:20 <seiryuu> こん
18:13:53 <seiryuu> マリッジブルーってヤツなのか、最近、ちょっとしたことにイラッとくるぜ
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19:01:58 <akiraani_> 放課後さいころ倶楽部のアニメ、いったいどんな形になるんだろうなぁ
19:03:07 <akiraani_> 一話完結形式で一つのゲーム取り上げてるけど、30分尺にはさすがに短すぎる気がするんだよなぁ
19:04:24 <akiraani_> 30分尺のアニメにならないのか、ボードゲームの商品紹介のCパート挟んでの三部構成になるとかかねぇ
19:04:49 <aba[AWAY]> なぎら健壱がボードゲームをするパート
19:05:33 <Marcy> ヒゲが酒飲むパートが本編
19:05:53 <akiraani_> 放課後さいころ倶楽部オリジナルボードゲーム作ろう企画とか実写パートでやったりして名
19:06:35 <Marcy> ………
19:06:50 <Marcy> 「ボドゲであそぼ」と言う番組があってだね（ｒｙ
19:07:12 <akiraani_> 実写店長役をマフィア梶田が熱演、とかどうよ
19:13:14 <akiraani_> あれだ、やっぱ実写パートするなら女性声優連れてくるのが一番だから
19:13:54 <akiraani_> 大竹みゆMCで主にタクティカル系のボードゲームを
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22:55:46 <Marcy> ダブルデッカーなかなか面白い
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23:10:35 <Morris> 『異世界魔王と召喚少女の奴隷魔術』11巻読了
23:10:55 <Morris> またハーレム要員2人増やしたよこのDT魔王……（片方は人妻）
23:11:22 <Morris> アニメ化ついでに1巻から読み直したりもしてたけど
23:11:56 <Morris> 「不自由しかなかった」レムと「（世継ぎの件を除いて）不自由なんてなかった」シェラ、という対比に今頃気付いた
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23:12:54 <Morris> あと、ちょくちょく出てきてたゲイバルト、実は主人公PTと対面するのは5巻以来だったのか
23:13:43 <Morris> チートキャラ（主人公）に対抗できるのはチートキャラだけ、のジャンプ方式も加速
23:14:16 <Morris> とはいえ、理不尽なほどではないんだけどね。
23:14:48 <Morris> 新章に突入すると前章のキャラが途端にザコ化するジャンプほどではないｗ
23:15:19 <Morris> むしろ、新章に突入すると前章のキャラが全く出てこなくなる方向
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