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<Morris> .a iPod touch loop
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(Toybox) Amazon.co.jp の商品一覧から http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/search?ie=UTF8&tag=koubou-22&keywords=iPod%20touch%20loop をどうぞ♪
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<Morris> 消耗品だね
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<Morris> （小さい輪っかの部分にいろいろぶら下げているのでかなりへたっている）
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<tatsu114> どんどこどんどこ
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<tatsu114> ＦＦ１４をチラッとやってみたよ
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<tatsu114> ＦＦ11にあった移動のわずらわしさとか不満店を大体解消してるイメージだった
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<tatsu114> あと、ソロをやりやすい
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<Pikoyan> あれ？
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<Pikoyan> 14って終わったんじゃなかったっけ？
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<tatsu114> 全部作り直したの
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<Pikoyan> ……全部？
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<tatsu114> あんな体たらくをさらしたところでＦＦ11のチームから何人かきて、使い物にならないからもう作りなおそうっつって作り直して
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<tatsu114> 前のＦＦ14はイベントで世界崩壊っぽいイベントを起こして
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<tatsu114> 今回新しく生まれ変わったのがオープンベータ中
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<tatsu114> 悪いけど、今のスクエニの体制に対してのヘイトならいっくらでも出るよ
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<Pikoyan> それもう別ゲームだよねというか
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<Pikoyan> FF15とかみたいに名前変えて良いんじゃないかなとか
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<tatsu114> 全部ってのも言いすぎかなぁ、本当に使えそうなパーツは使えてるから骨格は残ってるみたいだし
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<tatsu114> どっちにしろ、スクエニの無能さんたちが
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<tatsu114> ゲーム会社の柱でもあるクリエイター陣を切り捨てまくって
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<tatsu114> 金儲けしか出来ない人たちを優遇して
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<Morris> スクエニお得意のリメイク商法です（ドヤァ
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<tatsu114> 開発を中国だか韓国に発注したって言うあほな話をかましたおかげで
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<tatsu114> 作り直す羽目になったんだよなぁ。
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<tatsu114> 今じゃ遺産にすがってソーシャルで搾取して・・・
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<tatsu114> ＦＦ14は楽しめたけど、いつ消え去るんだろうなぁ。っておもうわ
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<tatsu114> （うっうっ
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<tatsu114> そんなわけであとの問題はＰＣでやりたいけどスペックは微妙なのかなぁってところですな
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<dain> SSD取り付けもろもろ完了
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<dain> やばい快適さに惚れるわ・・・
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<Morris> 物欲魔人が炊飯器を欲しております
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<aspha> 炊飯器は高い奴を買うとご飯が輝いて見えます（もちろん味も
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<zigutabi> すみません、eclipseで作ったJavaファイルを.jar形式でエクスポートしたのですが、せっかく出力したファイルが実行されませんでした。
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<zigutabi> これは何故でしょうか
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<zigutabi> すみません、誰かいますか～？
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<dain> いますが僕はプログラミングはだめなのです(´・ω・｀)ごめんね
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<koi-chan> ごめんなさい、NetBeans派なうえJavaはほとんどわからないのです。お役に立てずすみません
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<mjolnir> (ω).o(http://oshiete.goo.ne.jp/qa/6191800.html)
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<mjolnir> もう最近開発環境なんて開いてないYO…
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<zigutabi> あうう、すみませんでした。
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<mjolnir> にょ
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<mjolnir> 解決してますか？
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<mjolnir> ＃FURI県をGoogle Map Engine APIで楽しむ為にどうしたらいいかというどうでもいい調べ事中
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<zigutabi> いえ、開かないです
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<mjolnir> eclipseのtest runでは行ける状況、でしょうか
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<zigutabi> それはできます
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<mjolnir> jarファイルはjavaによって起動（java.exeの起動）はされてるかー、とか
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<mjolnir> JDKが実は違うーとか…
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<mjolnir> ＃インストールしてるJavaと、eclipseの使ってるjavaが違ったりして、バグる経験が…
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<zigutabi> バッチファイル(.bat)を作ったら、一瞬で消えた
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<zigutabi> ダブルクリックすると、ついたと思ったら、一瞬で消えた
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<mjolnir> ふむ
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<mjolnir> コマンドプロンプトから行ってみましょう
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<mjolnir> エラーが出てれば、それで分かりますし
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<zigutabi> そのコマンドプロントが訳ワカメ状態です；ω；
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<zigutabi> java -versionを打ち込むと、Javaのバージョンが出るのですが
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<zigutabi> javac ファイル名．javaを打つと、エラーが出ました
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<zigutabi> javacは内部コマンド、外部コマンド、操作可能なプログラム、バッチファイルとして認識されませんでした。とでました
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<mjolnir> とりあえず、javacにパスが通ってないですね
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<mjolnir> えーと、ですが
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<mjolnir> そのエラーはeclipseが生成したbatファイルを、コマンドプロンプトで起動したら出たエラー、ですね？
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<zigutabi> ここにあるものを参考にしたのですが、うまくPathが通りませんでした
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<mjolnir> JAVA_HOME形式はいいと思いますが、とりあえず
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<mjolnir> 問題の切り分けの為、
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<mjolnir> JDKそのもののフォルダ
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<mjolnir> 例えば、
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<mjolnir> C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.5.0_06
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<mjolnir> をPathに追加してみて頂けませんでしょうか。
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<zigutabi> あううう、いじっていたら、Pathが消えてしまった。
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<zigutabi> 試しにと思って、PATHと新規作成したら、Pathが消えた；ω；
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<mjolnir> ！？
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<mjolnir> oh...
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<zigutabi> せっかく、通ったjava -versionもと折らなくなった
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<zigutabi> ありがとうございます
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<zigutabi> とりあえず、後者のほうで対応しました