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<akiraani> http://ascii.jp/elem/000/000/886/886548/
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<akiraani> ktkr
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<akiraani> 格安SIM系の中では、制限時の速度が300kbpsと速いので
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<akiraani> 最安プランで遅いけどつなぎ放題というサービスだと思って使うのがよさげ
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<H_Aoi> そういえば
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<H_Aoi> 光回線の工事に来て、嫁実家の事務所(土建屋)のルーターを勝手にリセットして帰ったバカ作業員を
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<H_Aoi> 土曜日に呼び出してやった
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<H_Aoi> ちゃんと設定してるから触るなら一声掛けろという連絡を無視した報いである
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<H_Aoi> しかし、何が一番恐ろしいって
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<H_Aoi> 全く事前の確認もなく、いきなりきて触りだして自分ところの機械がうまく繋がらないからといっていきなり「顧客の管理してるルーター」を
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<H_Aoi> 無断リセットするという思考
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<H_Aoi> さらに、作業が終った後の作業完了報告=なし、声かけだけ
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<H_Aoi> 設置してったIP電話付きルーターの設定情報=なし
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<H_Aoi> 設置してったIP電話付きルーターのログインパスワードとID=こちらが管理してるファイルの裏表紙に鉛筆で手書きメモ
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<H_Aoi> ありえん…
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<H_Aoi> さすがNTT、親方日の丸根性は未だに抜けないようである
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<asahiya_> え。
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<asahiya_> ああいうのって「大切に保管してください」とは言われますが。
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<asahiya_> どっかにメモしたりするもんではないですよね??
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<H_Aoi> んむ
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<H_Aoi> だから論外なんですな
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<H_Aoi> しかも、ユーザー名が4文字、パスワードがアルファベットのみの5文字というザルさ下限
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<H_Aoi> さすがNTT、セキュリティという意識は全くないようで
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<asahiya_> えー……
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<asahiya_> 「パスワード強度」としては、私が良く設定するパスも似たような物と言えば、似たようなものですが。
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<H_Aoi> せめて、暫定でユーザー名とパスワードを設定してるので、後で任意で変えてくださいというならマシですが
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<asahiya_> そこまで分かりやすく強度下げなくても。
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<asahiya_> そうですね。
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raa0121_z -> raa0121
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<H_Aoi> そして恐ろしいのは
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<H_Aoi> 恐らくそのバカ作業員が担当した工事で設置されたルーターは「すべて」同一のパス、IDだろうと予想が容易という
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<asahiya_> ……
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<H_Aoi> これって凄まじく危ない情報な気がする
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<asahiya_> 最近再読したWeb小説に
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<asahiya_> 「2000年対応で顧客対応するプログラマ」の話があったんですが
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<H_Aoi> むい
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<asahiya> その中で、「年数2桁処理のまま、表示時に頭に19を付ける」という対応を担当顧客すべてにやったプログラマ というのがあってですね
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<asahiya> 先輩プログラマが呆れてたんですが。
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<asahiya> なんとなく、似た匂いを感じました。
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<asahiya> #小説の中ででもなければ笑えない話だろうと思います。
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<H_Aoi> 今まで問題起きなかったからこれからも起きない
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<H_Aoi> という思考を持った人間はエンジニアをやっては行けないという典型例ですね
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<NM> 正常性バイアス自体はあらゆる人間が普遍的に持っている習性なので
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<NM> 教育しないと身につかないよな
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<hir_CF_> つまり改善されないな
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<hir_CF_> だって正常性バイアスを改善する教育する者がまず正常性バイアスを修正されないといけないw
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! sobon___ (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
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+ ao_MacB (ao_MacB!ao_macb@s184156.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) to #ぱそ
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! Balyoshi (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
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+ kuzumi-y (kuzumi-y!kuzumi-y@softbank126107134254.bbtec.net) to #ぱそ
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! H_Aoi ("Leaving...")
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+ asahiya_ (asahiya_!asahiya@46.81.241.49.ap.yournet.ne.jp) to #ぱそ
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! asahiya (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
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+ asahiya (asahiya!asahiya@46.81.241.49.ap.yournet.ne.jp) to #ぱそ
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! asahiya_ (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
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+ asahiya_ (asahiya_!asahiya@46.81.241.49.ap.yournet.ne.jp) to #ぱそ
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! asahiya (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
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+ Pikoyan (Pikoyan!UserID@p14136-ipngn802funabasi.chiba.ocn.ne.jp) to #ぱそ
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+ Balyoshi (Balyoshi!username@k161241.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) to #ぱそ
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+ LizardMen (LizardMen!LZD@dhcpg060.gctv.ne.jp) to #ぱそ
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+ tatsu114 (tatsu114!tatsu114@210-1-152-197.catv.tees.ne.jp) to #ぱそ
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MorrisWork -> Morris
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! AizawaYu2 ("それではノシ")
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+ setg (setg!s@nttkyo457187.tkyo.nt.ngn2.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp) to #ぱそ
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+ H_Aoi (H_Aoi!H_Aoi@59-190-54-59f1.hyg2.eonet.ne.jp) to #ぱそ
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koi-chan[away] -> koi-chan
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+ aspha (aspha!UserID@p2253-ipbf04otsu.shiga.ocn.ne.jp) to #ぱそ
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! aspha (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
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+ aspha (aspha!UserID@p2253-ipbf04otsu.shiga.ocn.ne.jp) to #ぱそ
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! ao_MacB (Client closed connection)
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+ ao_MacB (ao_MacB!ao_macb@s184156.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) to #ぱそ
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+ Kannna_ (Kannna_!kannna@em36-244-194-138.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp) to #ぱそ
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+ C-T______ (C-T______!Cat-Tail_UXG@p0367e1.miygnt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp) to #ぱそ
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+ CT_______ (CT_______!Cat-Tail@p0367e1.miygnt01.ap.so-net.ne.jp) to #ぱそ
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! CTL______ (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
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! C-TL_____ (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
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+ akiraani (akiraani!akiraani@nfmv001100229.uqw.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp) to #ぱそ
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! setg ("Leaving...")
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! Yaduka_ (Client closed connection)
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+ Yaduka (Yaduka!yaduka@ntchba290246.chba.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp) to #ぱそ
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+ Kannna (Kannna!kannna@em36-244-194-138.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp) to #ぱそ
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! Kannna_ (Ping timeout: 120 seconds)
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raa0121 -> raa0121_z
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! hir_CF_ ("Leaving...")
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+ hir_CF (hir_CF!hir_cf@p31113-ipngn100405kobeminato.hyogo.ocn.ne.jp) to #ぱそ
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+ ash (ash!ash@61-27-134-148.rev.home.ne.jp) to #ぱそ
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! ao_MacB (Client closed connection)
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raa0121_z -> raa0121
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! V-zEn ("ノシ")
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+ V-zEn (V-zEn!V-zEn@12.174.210.220.dy.bbexcite.jp) to #ぱそ
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+ ocha (ocha!ocha@i223-216-137-159.s41.a022.ap.plala.or.jp) to #ぱそ
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! ocha ("Leaving...")
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! V-zEn ("ノシ")
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ash -> GMsh
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+ V-zEn (V-zEn!V-zEn@12.174.210.220.dy.bbexcite.jp) to #ぱそ
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+ dain (dain!dain@220x151x204x245.ap220.ftth.ucom.ne.jp) to #ぱそ
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! Yaduka (Client closed connection)
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+ Yaduka (Yaduka!yaduka@ntchba290246.chba.nt.ftth.ppp.infoweb.ne.jp) to #ぱそ
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Yaduka -> Yaduka[Sleep]
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! ao__ ("さいきど。")
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! Kannna ("Leaving...")
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+ ao_ (ao_!ao_mm@27-141-213-54.rev.home.ne.jp) to #ぱそ
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! LizardMen ("無理だよ。僕に 勝 つのは。やるだけ無駄だってば。")